| olofk | Basic VPI stuff works in orpsocv3 now. That's it for today. Good night everyone | 00:16 |
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| Amadiro | olofk, just wait until you see the prices for... well.. anything | 04:20 |
| stekern | I was a bit surprised that norwegian wasn't the cheapest offer for my flights | 05:28 |
| jeremybennett | stekern: We're flying in with BA. IIRC correctly Norwegian was a similar price, but flying out of Gatwick, which is more expensive for Simon to get to. | 10:12 |
| stekern | I guess the airline companies need to keep their prices down in order to be alive | 10:15 |
| jeremybennett | Yes - where there is competition on routes, prices (at least in economy) seem comparable. | 10:15 |
| stekern | I mean, I've never considered Ryan Air as an option, so that has probably not been such a strong competitor as noregian | 10:16 |
| jeremybennett | very wise - I too rule our Ryan Air | 10:29 |
| juliusb | ah Ryan Air isn't that bad - it gets you there and is usually the cheapest. Most of all for me, though, is that their hub is on the right side of London. | 13:33 |
| juliusb | That's a pretty big thing to consider here in London, where getting to the other side of town and back may cost you 10-20 pounds more, which may be the difference in airfares between an airline going from a closer airport | 13:34 |
| juliusb | however, from Cambridge, flying from Stansted is win win - closest airport and cheapest airline | 13:35 |
| juliusb | although, I must admit I would not fly on Ryan Air if I had kids or work could pay for a real airline | 13:36 |
| juliusb | and flying alone like I will, with no check-in luggage, makes it more bearable | 13:37 |
| juliusb | it's like a bus trip with more security - i printo ut everythign here at work and cycle to the train station which then takes me to a platform underneath the checkin area | 13:38 |
| juliusb | and stroll through security | 13:38 |
| juliusb | it's almost optimal, except for the horrid airplane interiors they have | 13:38 |
| juliusb | anyway, I won't be getting to Stockholm until later Friday evening, I land at 9:30 so won't be in town until 11:30 easily | 13:39 |
| juliusb | so i could pop by for a quick beer or two | 13:40 |
| stekern | do ryan air fly to arlanda nowdays? | 14:28 |
| stekern | simoncook: fyi, I've synced my llvm/clang trees with mainline. I pulled in the changes in your tree first, to avoid duplicate efforts when fixing the breakage various interface changes causes. | 15:05 |
| stekern | take a look so I haven't screwed anything up badly | 15:05 |
| stekern | oh, and: well done! | 16:12 |
| olofk | Hey, why don't we call it the Cross-national OpenRISC conference? Then we can shorten it to XNOR conf. | 20:36 |
| olofk | I think XNOR is the coolest gate | 20:36 |
| olofk | Makes a great hash tag. I've put my tweet bombing on hold until we have decided on a good one | 20:37 |
| olofk | XOR is good too of course. "There can only be one true OpenRISC conference" | 20:37 |
| olofk | Or actually, XOR is true for all odd number of 1's, right? | 20:38 |
| jeremybennett | olofk: #orconf | 20:42 |
| jeremybennett | #orconf2012 | 20:42 |
| jeremybennett | #orcamp | 20:42 |
| olofk | And if someone discovers a big covered up scandal involving the OpenRISC, the media will probably call it or gate | 20:42 |
| jeremybennett | Someone cut off his beer supply quick :) | 20:43 |
| jeremybennett | Is it a conference, workshop, meeting or seminar? | 20:44 |
| olofk | That's a good question. I think we can rule out workshop, since there will be lots and lots of talking, but not much hacking on the agenda | 20:45 |
| olofk | I would go for conference or seminar. It started out as a more informal meeting, but it has grown a bit | 20:46 |
| olofk | powwow turns up in my list of synonyms. Could any native english speaker shed some light on this? I'm not sure that the "yearly OpenRISC powwow" will be taken too seriously | 20:50 |
| juliusb | olofk: rofl at OR-gate scandal | 21:25 |
| juliusb | yes it did start out informal but i think it's good to make it a littl emore formal so those less involved feel welcome to crash the party | 21:26 |
| olofk | I totally agree. | 21:26 |
| juliusb | as for hashtag, I'll leave that to the twitterati | 21:27 |
| olofk | I just tweeted with #orconf2012 | 21:27 |
| olofk | Do you need help with the schedule, btw, or do you have that under control? | 21:29 |
| juliusb | mmm yeah I'll get a draft one together quite soon, possibly tonight, and email it around | 21:30 |
| juliusb | but here's what I'm thinking so far - some welcome stuff, RTE peeople wil introduce themselves and what they do, ORSoC will do the same, and give an update on OpenCores and talk about some of the work they've been doing and what's in store reagrding new boards | 21:31 |
| juliusb | all of that shouldn't take more than 30-40min | 21:32 |
| juliusb | then sven ake's OpenRISC for newbies | 21:32 |
| juliusb | then Piotr Skyprzk I believe wants to present something on eCos, so him next | 21:32 |
| juliusb | then you're presentatino on ORPSoCv3 olofk | 21:32 |
| juliusb | then mor1kx core presentation | 21:32 |
| juliusb | then stekern presenting his LLVM/toochain wizardry | 21:33 |
| juliusb | then or1k architectural discussion | 21:33 |
| juliusb | then jeremybennett chairing the open source processes talk | 21:33 |
| juliusb | which should run until dinner | 21:33 |
| juliusb | of course, breaks in between | 21:33 |
| olofk | Are you making this up now, or have you thought about it beforehand? :) | 21:33 |
| juliusb | and a fairly elastic timing on all of this | 21:33 |
| juliusb | i have roughly sketched thi sout | 21:34 |
| olofk | It all sounds good to me | 21:34 |
| juliusb | (beforehand) | 21:34 |
| juliusb | maybe break up the or1k architectural discussion with something before the open source processes for the project discussion | 21:34 |
| jeremybennett | olofk: how do i find you on Twitter | 21:34 |
| jeremybennett | juliusb: simoncook will also want to present on LLVM with stekern | 21:35 |
| juliusb | jeremybennett: no problem! | 21:35 |
| juliusb | I mean maybe break up the two discussion sessions with something in between | 21:35 |
| olofk | jeremybennett: I go by the mysterious name of OlofKindgren, so that no one will find out my true identity | 21:35 |
| juliusb | some lightning presentations | 21:35 |
| jeremybennett | Can you also put it on the Wiki. Plus it would be good for Marcus (are you there orsoc1_) to give it some front page air time. | 21:35 |
| juliusb | I've asked jonibo if he'll be around, but I understand he's very busy at the moment, but it'd be cool to have him along and get a quick update on the kernel port status if it's possible | 21:36 |
| olofk | And a schedule would be nice if random people want to drop in for a certain presentation | 21:36 |
| juliusb | yes, well, I don't want to time it too tightly | 21:36 |
| juliusb | i'll give a running order with rough timings | 21:36 |
| juliusb | we need to start the longer items by a certain time, such as the final project processes discussion | 21:36 |
| jeremybennett | olofk: Of course if I could actually spell your surname, I might have found you... | 21:36 |
| juliusb | so I'll state those | 21:37 |
| olofk | juliusb: I guess that works too. Most people will be around for the whole time | 21:37 |
| juliusb | sunday about midday I'd like to meet up again with anyone who's willing to do the bug squashing session and or2k discussion | 21:37 |
| juliusb | whether that's at the RTE offices or a cafe or something, we'll see | 21:37 |
| olofk | My plane leaves 8pm. I have no idea how long it takes to Arlanda, but I will probably be around most of sunday | 21:38 |
| juliusb | yes, that session can probably last at a cafe or pub until leaving time | 21:39 |
| juliusb | i'd say you'd want to leave for arlanda from centralen about 5 | 21:39 |
| juliusb | 5/5:30 | 21:39 |
| juliusb | i'm on a flight at about 9PM out of Skavsta so I'll be off about a similar time | 21:40 |
| olofk | jeremybennett: I see that you are as active on twitter as I am :) | 21:40 |
| juliusb | anyway, schedule is easy, I'm still stumped on a) dinner for saturday night b) recording equipment | 21:42 |
| juliusb | c) my presentations :) | 21:42 |
| jeremybennett | olofk: I'm improving. In particular @embecosm will be getting a lot more active in the coming months. | 21:42 |
| juliusb | I was going to ask on the mailing lists if anyone has gear appropriate for doing an audio and/or video recording of the meeting | 21:42 |
| jeremybennett | Surely for a) you just book a table for 16 somewhere? | 21:43 |
| jeremybennett | With good beer of course. | 21:43 |
| jeremybennett | And preferably food as well | 21:43 |
| juliusb | jeremybennett: sven ake has proposed a place, see the discussion page on the wiki | 21:43 |
| juliusb | it's a bit pricy, but that's stockholm I'm afraid | 21:43 |
| juliusb | the beer isn't too bad | 21:43 |
| juliusb | http://opencores.org/or1k/Talk:OpenRISC_Project_Meeting#Dinner_Venue | 21:44 |
| jeremybennett | Looking at google translate, I am only slightly wiser, although I see we have missed the beer festival by one week :( | 21:45 |
| jeremybennett | Looks like it takes its beer seriously. | 21:45 |
| olofk | I have a good condenser microphone that works great for getting sound from a room | 21:45 |
| juliusb | english menu: http://www.sue-ellen.se/cliffxo/uploads/files/engelsk-oktoberfestmenu.pdf | 21:45 |
| olofk | Yeah, but that menu ends October 5th | 21:45 |
| jeremybennett | "Butchers of the fabled Wagyu cow" intrigues me | 21:46 |
| juliusb | olofk: ohhh, could be good. i have a nice little USB sound card. I was wondering about maybe getting a pzm mic | 21:46 |
| juliusb | they don't appear to be cheap | 21:46 |
| jeremybennett | I've never eaten moose | 21:46 |
| juliusb | we have them all over work, though, maybe I could ask to borrow one from here | 21:46 |
| juliusb | yes, that menu does say it's the oktoberfesto ne | 21:46 |
| juliusb | but I guess it seems nice | 21:47 |
| olofk | Hmm.. I just remembered that I need to bring my tube mic amp for the phantom power too. Hope they don't make a fuss at the checkin | 21:47 |
| juliusb | not too far | 21:47 |
| juliusb | jeremybennett: what's your twitter name? | 21:47 |
| olofk | juliusb: You just said it :) | 21:48 |
| juliusb | ah it's @embecosm? | 21:48 |
| jeremybennett | @jeremypbennett (@jeremybennett had already gone). Also @embecosm for the company. | 21:48 |
| juliusb | yes i tried jeremybennett and noticed it wasn't you, although looks like someone with similar maratime interests | 21:48 |
| juliusb | so if people are happy with that restaurant I can tell Sven Ake that we should book | 21:49 |
| juliusb | so in other news the foss-sthlm guys are hapyp for us to post on their mailing list advertising the event | 21:50 |
| juliusb | so we may get a few curious randomers | 21:50 |
| juliusb | (which would be great!) | 21:50 |
| jeremybennett | The more the merrier. How big is the room? | 21:50 |
| jeremybennett | Have to go - dinner calls | 21:52 |
| juliusb | I do not nkow actually | 21:52 |
| juliusb | big enough for about 15-20 i gather | 21:54 |
| olofk | Should there be a difference in endianness when I read memory through the VPI GDB server? | 22:24 |
| juliusb | mmmm yeah | 22:34 |
| juliusb | i never figured that out :( | 22:34 |
| olofk | I wonder how many hours people have spent on discussing, debugging and converting endianness | 23:19 |
| olofk | Maybe we should just settle for middleendian once and for all | 23:20 |
| juliusb | yeah it seems silly huh | 23:23 |
| juliusb | oh well.... | 23:23 |
| juliusb | try undoing it | 23:23 |
| olofk | Yeah, it's a bit too late to change now. Even if I had a time machine, I'm not sure that would be the first thing I would fix | 23:32 |
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