| --- Log opened Fri Jul 29 00:00:00 2016 | ||
| SMDhome | I think I've missed talking about boards w/ fpgas, but check this one http://starterkit.ru/html/index.php?name=shop&op=view&id=76 | 00:29 |
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| SMDhome | It has 256mb ddr3 connected to spartan6 lx25 along with arm8, price is about 120$, but I think it's definitely cheaper than altera sockit | 00:29 |
| SMDhome | https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fstarterkit.ru%2Fhtml%2Findex.php%3Fname%3Dshop%26op%3Dview%26id%3D76 this looks better | 00:30 |
| olofk | mithro: pong! | 08:46 |
| mithro | olofk: You should put something in for Linux.conf.au! | 08:47 |
| olofk | mithro: Could be fun, but I don't have the time and money for that unfortunately | 08:59 |
| mithro | They have travel funding for speakers | 08:59 |
| olofk | juliusb did a talk there in 2010 I think | 08:59 |
| olofk | mithro: I would love to go, but I'm not sure I can justify travelling that much right now | 09:00 |
| olofk | I was thinking about going to Linux plumbers conf too, but I'll probably need to skip that one as well | 09:02 |
| mithro | We'll be using the HDMI2USB stuff to do the recording of that conference | 09:12 |
| mithro | Using Opsis boards | 09:12 |
| olofk | mithro: That's really cool. You're not interested in doing that for orconf too perhaps? | 09:27 |
| mithro | olofk: When is orconf? | 09:28 |
| mithro | we are currently pondering doing a misoc/litex "Build your own SoC" tutorial | 09:28 |
| olofk | mithro: 7-9 October in Bologna | 09:31 |
| mithro | olofk: Any chance you guys have any budget to do recording? | 09:32 |
| olofk | mithro: We could discuss this within FOSSi Foundation. Maybe you could send me a mail with your thoughts | 09:37 |
| mithro | How many streams do you have? | 09:37 |
| olofk | One hundred million streams! | 09:38 |
| olofk | No, don't really know what you mean :) | 09:38 |
| mafm | in some of the previous editions of orconf, audio in (some?) talks was not good, I couldn't hear/understand almost anything | 10:06 |
| mafm | I seem to recall plans to have orconf in Lisbon a while ago, will it happen some time, or did the people working on that withdrew from OpenRISC? | 10:07 |
| * mafm checking the flights to Bologna... not looking very good :-/ | 10:28 | |
| mafm | https://www.wired.com/2016/06/demonically-clever-backdoor-hides-inside-computer-chip/ <- mentioing or1200 | 11:40 |
| olofk | mafm: (audio) Yeah, that's a good reminder. We need to have real microphones this time | 11:48 |
| olofk | mafm: (Lisbon) We haven't had much contact with the people from Lisbon the last years, but there's definitely a chance we'll go there at some point | 11:52 |
| olofk | mafm: (or1200 backdoor). Yes. Matthew Hicks, who is one of the authors of that paper did a lot of OpenRISC stuff some years ago | 11:53 |
| olofk | oh, and regarding flights. I just use my private jet that I bought with some of the money that I have made from Open Source work | 11:54 |
| kc5tja | olofk: I'm so jealous. | 11:54 |
| kc5tja | ;) | 11:54 |
| olofk | kc5tja: I plan to invest the rest of the money in fax machines and Pentium 4 processors. I think they will be really big soon | 11:58 |
| SMDwrk | why don't you want to invest it into oil instead? | 12:13 |
| olofk | SMDwrk: That could be an option too, but not as safe. I Mean, no one has invaded a country because of fax machines | 12:22 |
| olofk | Or maybe that's just what they want us to think! It's all a conspiracy! It's not a coincidence that they stopped selling Pentium 4 processors on the same day that the olympics started in China... a country well-known for their fax machines. | 12:27 |
| SMDwrk | Be careful while traveling abroad since you've come up with this | 12:33 |
| olofk | Damn! I know too much already | 12:33 |
| ZipCPU|Laptop | Don't forget the cattle mutations ... | 13:04 |
| olofk | ZipCPU|Laptop: Aren't those caused by the chem trails? | 16:31 |
| kc5tja | Alien abductions. | 16:55 |
| olofk | kc5tja: Haha. Alien abductions? That's like believing in user friendly EDA tools | 16:57 |
| mafm | olofk: re flights, it's not good because of connections from (what I expect to be) my home by October | 17:06 |
| mafm | would have been easier from my current home (close to Cambridge, London-Stansted airport) | 17:08 |
| mafm | main problem will be holidays, starting a new job I don't know if I'll accumulate enough to go | 17:09 |
| olofk | mafm: Yeah. I understand that it can be a bit tricky. Hope you're able to work something out, and otherwise we'll make sure to have usable audio for the recordings and hope you'll be able to make it next time | 17:13 |
| mafm | olofk: \o/ | 17:21 |
| mafm | olofk: I had the idea that it was a bit later in the year, like late October or early November | 17:22 |
| mafm | my next-employer works with "IoT" and stuff, but probably I will not convince them to let me go on sponsored time :D | 17:23 |
| SMDhome | mafm: are you going to be sw or hw developer for iot? | 17:24 |
| mafm | SMDhome: neither (initially), mostly developer "cloud" things, but we'll see in the future :) | 17:25 |
| mafm | when is the schedule of orconf expected to be published? early september? | 17:26 |
| SMDhome | yep, it would be nice to see it | 17:30 |
| mafm | SMDhome: I was hoping to get involved in the IoT division to promote some open hardware at some point, e.g. using pulpino | 17:34 |
| SMDhome | mafm: I was interested for someone related to iot to ask what they think about iot promises that my company makes, but then I checked its site and there is nothing on IoT at all. So I guess that's it) | 17:35 |
| mafm | :D | 17:36 |
| mafm | SMDhome: what's the company, if I may ask? | 17:36 |
| mafm | my next employer is a small lab, spin-off from a univ | 17:36 |
| mafm | I think that they mostly try to find useful applications based on the latest buzzwords that gets grants and so on, I am not sure what concrete projects they're working on | 17:37 |
| SMDhome | I don't know for sure if I'm able to tell even this, but check private messages. It's kind of annoying to work for such proprietary guys though | 17:38 |
| olofk | We usually release a new batch of speakers every now and then. Might actually be a good idea to release a first batch quite soon | 17:39 |
| mafm | SMDhome: well, one of my tasks is going to be to "create an open source community around our product". I asked "where's the source code? we should make it available to the public, create issue trackers, releases..." ... the reply was: "oh, actually, that's the last step, we're not sure if we want to commit to make it open source yet, it would take lots of our resources!" | 17:41 |
| mafm | SMDhome: so yeah, either there's some mismatch between our ideas or expectations, or I think that mine have quite a proprietary mentality too :D | 17:42 |
| SMDhome | mafm: that sounds nice, I have a friend of mine who maintains whole opensource thing for their project himself. It's really hard, but I think that's worth it. | 17:45 |
| SMDhome | Also I have some cool stories about elbrus cpu and how guys wanted to go opensource w/ it | 17:45 |
| mafm | SMDhome: the thing is, I don't think that it would take a lot of resources, and it would be nice. they seem to want to create an open-source community around the product, when actually publishing the source is the last of the steps in their mind, and probably never happens. which is kind of a surprising / backwards strategy to me, if they actually want to create an "open-source community" | 17:47 |
| mafm | SMDhome: but well, let's see, I didn't even start, so maybe there's a sensible explanation for it all :) | 17:48 |
| mafm | olofk: lots of pulpino stuff being in Bologna, I suppose? | 17:49 |
| ZipCPU | SMDhome: What a difference between a large company and a small one. I am my only employee. I am betting the farm that by working on open source projects things will work. | 17:50 |
| ZipCPU | I figure I've invested over a year in getting this thing started ... | 17:51 |
| ZipCPU | Using opencores ... I've certainly gotten many hits and likes of things I've done. | 17:52 |
| ZipCPU | Just ... no paycheck yet. But I'm trusting olofk that it's coming soon ;) | 17:52 |
| SMDhome | ZipCPU It's cool and I wish I could do the same, but I'm too newbie for it right now | 17:55 |
| ZipCPU | Yeah. I was a complete newbie last year. Amazing how much you can grow by working at it for a year. | 17:55 |
| SMDhome | ZipCPU total newbie? | 17:57 |
| ZipCPU | Well ... I might've had 9 months of paid FPGA work before then. | 17:57 |
| ZipCPU | 1-2 months building a GPS collection system, perhaps about 6 months building a waveform processor ... | 17:57 |
| ZipCPU | Other than that, an absolute FPGA newbie. | 17:57 |
| olofk | mafm: Yes, there will be lots of Pulpino. That one's for sure :) | 17:59 |
| SMDhome | ZipCPU and what's about comp arch/ your education? | 17:59 |
| ZipCPU | Okay, so I do have an advanced degree in computer engineering, and I have done embedded work before. I've studied processor design, but never done it. | 18:00 |
| olofk | ZipCPU: That's impressive I must say | 18:00 |
| ZipCPU | It's certainly been a lot of fun. | 18:00 |
| ZipCPU | I've now built a CPU, a flash controller, timers, counters, watchdogs, bus controllers, UART, SPI controllers, VGA controller, | 18:01 |
| ZipCPU | I've built a DMA controller, a flash controller, and I'm now working on a DDR3 memory controller and an ethernet controller/driver. | 18:01 |
| ZipCPU | These are all firsts for me within this last year. | 18:01 |
| SMDhome | ZipCPU you're cool! I wish I studied comp engineering instead of info sec: it brings only problems and pain ._. | 18:02 |
| ZipCPU | Yeah, I never cared for INFOSEC: too many ways to lose, and no way to be certain you've won. | 18:02 |
| SMDhome | ZipCPU and getting US visa for me takes ~2month only because of my education) | 18:03 |
| ZipCPU | I wouldn't know: what is a normal time for getting a US visa? | 18:04 |
| SMDhome | For "normal" people it takes 1 day | 18:04 |
| ZipCPU | And you think it's your education that makes it two months? Wow. | 18:04 |
| SMDhome | Yep, I could be evil haxxor who goes to the US to repeat Die Hard 4.0 movie! | 18:05 |
| olofk | SMDhome: You're working with Elbrus? | 18:06 |
| SMDhome | olofk: Worked for some time, yep | 18:07 |
| olofk | SMDhome: Cool. I like that one. Elbrus translates literally to "electronic noise" in Swedish, so it makes it sound like a bad-ass analog synthesizer :) | 18:08 |
| SMDhome | http://mcst.ru/files/579523/690cd8/50ae44/000000/mbe1c-pc.png This one has been released not so long ago | 18:12 |
| olofk | SMDhome: Looks like that it has some massive storage bandwidth | 18:13 |
| olofk | Those are SATA connectors at the bottom, right? | 18:13 |
| SMDhome | yep, 7 sata3 connectors + msata | 18:14 |
| SMDhome | and 3 eth | 18:14 |
| SMDhome | or fiber, idk | 18:14 |
| SMDhome | And it's able to run x86 code! Slowly, but anyway | 18:15 |
| olofk | Time for bed now | 18:15 |
| SMDhome | good night | 18:16 |
| --- Log closed Sat Jul 30 00:00:02 2016 | ||
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